Wuhan Flu not really from Wuhan?

There’s talk around social media that Covid-19 didn’t really originate in Wuhan. It’s hard to know the truth here, because it’s become so political. The Chinese are now trying to say that it came from the US. The US is responding by calling it ‘the Chinese disease’.

We know that the Chinese engaged in cover-ups, and are not the slightest bit trustworthy. However, there is one reason why it wouldn’t surprise me at all to discover that Covid-19 didn’t originate in Wuhan, and that is (as I have mentioned before) that most diseases turn out to have been around a lot longer than we thought, and to have come from somewhere else than where they are first detected.

And here’s another thing that is now being said to be a possible vector for Covid-19: the 2019 World Military Games which was held in Wuhan in October 2019, with nearly 10 000 participants from all over the globe:

The seventh edition of the International Military Sports Council (CISM) World Military Games officially begins tomorrow in Wuhan.


Nearly 10,000 military personnel from more than 100 countries will gather in the capital of central China’s Hubei province.

I have to say, even though some leftists are also saying this and I hate to agree with them, that this looks like a possible (though not at all certain) source of Covid-19. There will be other possibilities, including transmission from other areas in China. What we need to do is to work out whether C-19 was around earlier in 2019 in other countries, or other parts of China. It’s possible that a lot of cases that looked like influenza at the time were really Covid-19, or some variant.

Update: Regardless of where the Wuhan Flu really came from, it still remains true that the Chinese Communists have engaged in criminal cover-ups, and we must seriously re-consider our relations with them. The ultimate origin of Covid-19 doesn’t really affect that.

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3 thoughts on “Wuhan Flu not really from Wuhan?

  1. Both my wife and myself had a flu like illness early last year. It was quite bad for a few days and then took about a week to get fully over it. It didn’t seem to be too contagious, wife probably brought it home from her workplace but nobody at my workplace caught it. If it was related we will maybe have some protection.

  2. Since bats and Chinese wet markets have been around since the Dawn of History, it seems quite plausible that the “new” Panic Virus has also been endemic for a long time. What is “new” is the ability to test for it — although no-one is sharing information on the reliability of the tests (False Positives & False Negatives).

    How to test the hypothesis that the Panic Virus is not “new”?

    One approach might be to test whether any individuals in isolated populations already test positive — say, the residents of Pitcairn Island, or of the Yukon, or even long-term astronauts on the International Space Station.

  3. Somewhat related — If our host will indulge me, let me share a perspective from a recent conversation with a rather thoughtful individual, not a member of the Tin Foil Hat brigade but definitely someone who thinks outside the box.

    He points out that politics is an eternal part of the human condition, and war is the continuation of politics by other means. We think of wars in terms of armies and missiles, but military conflict between nuclear powers would not be useful for the aggressor. However, economic warfare can be just as effective as military conquest — it simply takes longer. Look at the destruction of Western (especially US) manufacturing capacity since China was allowed to join the World Trade Organization in 2001.

    My correspondent speculates that we may be seeing a temporary coordination between three countries with long-range objectives. Iran wants to secure Shi’ite domination over the Middle East and push the Jews into the sea. Russia would like to re-establish the Tsarist Empire, and probably expand it to include any useful parts of Western Europe left after its slow cultural & demographic suicide. China wants revenge for the Century of Humiliation at the hands of everyone from the English to the Japanese.

    Politicians with such very long-range objectives have to be flexible about the means to achieve it, and take advantages of opportunities presented by events such as a viral outbreak. The disruption in Chinese imports is likely to tip an already financially stressed West into an economic recession, and Russia’s torpedoing of OPEC+ only adds to the pressures.

    Economic warfare is very slow — so slow that the victims may not even realize they are under attack. Possible tells that there is coordination between China, Russia, Iran to achieve their separate aims could include:
    – Increasing strife in the oil-rich Shi’ite-majority coast of the Arabian peninsula in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain as low oil prices bite.
    – A severe downturn in the international LNG industry as demand and prices fall, leaving Europe even more dependent on imported Russian gas.
    – Slow restarting of Chinese exports of essential components required by Western manufacturers putting further pressure on Western businesses, in comparison to a more rapid restoration of exports of finished Chinese goods.

    As always, time will tell.

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